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Randy, I dont think there are any wad tools that know about the grab chunk, I was assuming that it was something you added yourself though? But if you made the source for setpng available, then it could probably be added. Csabo is already improving PNG support in XWE, he could probably make it act exactly like normal doom graphics when using png files. Chilvence 04:56, 2 Jan 2005 (PST)